David Runciman (marr. to Margaret Brown)1

ID#5539, (say 1685 - after 1715)
David Runciman (marr. to Margaret Brown)|b. say 1685\nd. aft. 1715|p5539.htm|George Runciman (marr. Jennet Finlay)|b. say 1645|p17058.htm|Jennet Finlay|b. say 1645||||||||||||||
Father-PossGeorge Runciman (marr. Jennet Finlay) (say 1645 - ); The identification of George & Jennet as David's parents is based purely on date and location and lack of documented alternatives.
With the results now coming out of the DNA project, possibly we should be looking within East Lothian for David's parents instead?1,2
Mother-PossJennet Finlay2,1 (say 1645 - )
Relationship6th great-grandfather of Lorna Henderson.

Intro

     From the Runciman DNA project we have a good match between descendants of Thomas married to Alison Grieve, and of William of Crail.
A tentative paper trail can be constructed between Thomas, William and the Robert married to Janet Sinclair and Katherine Begbie.
William of Crail's orphaned children are known to have been brought up by a Richard RUNCIMAN living in North Berwick, and there is a baptism of an appropriate Richard to Robert and Katherine (Begbie), the assumption here is that William of Crail is the William born to Robert and Janet (Sinclair) in 1717.
Likewise Thomas born Prestonpans, the son of Robert Runciman and Janet Sinclair, with a brother William, is currently assumed to be the same Thomas married to Alison Grieve with first known son Robert, living Thornton, Innerwick.3,4
     In addition there is also a good DNA match to the representatives of the line of David, weaver of Earlston and progenitor of the Wanton Walls Runciman families. Exactly how David relates to either William or Thomas is completely unknown.5,6

BMDB data

     David Runciman was born say 1685 prob. in BEW, SCT, (date a guess, assumes he married at about 25).2 He married Margaret Brown on 12 Jun 1712 at Gordon, BEW, SCT.1,7
     David Runciman died aft. 1715 prob. in Earlston, BEW, SCT.

Census/Where lived/Occupations

     David Runciman was a weaver at Earlston, BEW, SCT.8

Wills/bequests

     In the will of James Runciman on 8 Jun 1858 at Wantonwalls, Par. of Lauder, BEW, SCT, David Runciman (marr. to Margaret Brown) was mentioned as his great grandfather.8,9

All the other info

     David Runciman (marr. to Margaret Brown) belongs to a DNA tested line. Click here for further information.
     As of Mar 2010 descendants of David Runciman (marr. to Margaret Brown) and William Runciman (of Crail) have been shown to be genetically related. The DNA results show an excellent match between descendants of these two families (66/67 between a descendant of the Michigan families and 65/67 between a descendant of the Wanton Walls branch).
How they connect is completely unknown as yet. The dna results were a complete surprise so there isn't, yet, a plausible connection between the two families. (I was/am on the trail of trying to prove a completely different theory, which isn't nullified by the newfound results, about the connections for William of Crail as part of the Runciman One Name Study).5

Family

Margaret Brown (bef. 1692 - )
Child
  • John Runciman+ (cir. Nov 1715 - aft. Nov 1788); John's grdson James' will states that John's father was David, weaver of Earlston8,10,11
ChartsPaternal ancestors of Lorna
Paternal timeline
Ancestors & siblings of Les Henderson
RUNCIMAN of Earlston/Wanton Walls
A different spin on my pedigree chart
Last Edited1 Jan 2012

Citations

  1. H D W, "RUNCIMAN Correspondence," e-mail to L Henderson (1), Marr. 1712 David RUNCIMAN & Margaret BROWN, Gordon, BEW, rcvd Mar 2003.
  2. Lorna Henderson, "RUNCIMAN Analysis", Mar 2003.
  3. RUNCIMAN DNA Project online at http://dnasurnames.info/lineages/spRUNCIMANLineages.htm, Updated Sep 2011.
  4. Lorna Henderson, "RUNCIMAN Conclusions", Apr 2010.
  5. RUNCIMAN DNA Project online at http://dnasurnames.info/lineages/spRUNCIMANLineages.htm, DNA match between R-7 and R-1 (65/67) and R-2 (66/67), rcvd Mar 2010.
  6. RUNCIMAN DNA Project online at http://dnasurnames.info/lineages/spRUNCIMANLineages.htm, DNA match (65/67) between Jim R-10 and Jerry, R-2; (64/67) between Jim R-10 and Jim R-7 & David R-1, rcvd Aug 2010.
  7. Scotlands People Index, "OPR Berwick, Scotland, RUNCIMAN Marriages 1538-1854", Marr. 12 Jun 1712 David RUNCIMAN & Margaret BROWN, Gordon, BEW, 742/ 0020 0122, extracted from index Oct 2005.
  8. Will: RUNCIMAN, James 1858, 1867, 1872 (Will written Jun 1858 codicil Dec 1867 Inventory 23 Feb 1872 proved 8 Mar 1872) SC60/41/24 (27 pp) & SC60/44/6 (2pp): Copy d/loaded Sep 2005, (SC60/41/24 dated 23rd Feb 1872 detailed inventory, and Trust Dispostion & Settlement of 8th Jun 1858 and codicil 27 Dec 1867 - 27pp in all)
    (SC60/44/6 dated 8th March 1872 confirmed appointment of executors).
  9. Robert S.McCutcheon, "EM Borders/CAI Corres:McCUTCHEON," e-mail to (1), Photo of The Rhymer's Tower, Earlston, rcvd Nov 2005.
  10. David RUNCIMAN, "RUNCIMAN Corres.," e-mail to Lorna Henderson, Bap. 1715 John s/o David RUNCIMAN, Gordon, BEW, transcript rcvd May 2007.
  11. Scotlands People Index, "OPR Berwick, SCT, RUNCIMAN Births 1538-1854", Bap. 4 Dec 1715 John s/o David RUNCIMAN (in Lingerwood), Dist 742 #2, from RUNCIMAN births 1553 to 1716, Gordon, BEW, index searched Oct 2005.

E. & O. E. Some/most parish records are rather hard to read and names, places hard to interpret, particularly if you are unfamiliar with an area.
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